Posts Tagged ‘Season ticket’

FCATA – Blog 4

Hi all –

Yes – I know – the ABC Wide Bay radio interview was again delayed.  I spoke with Wayne Shearman who I did the interview with after his show and he was apologetic – the story got kicked because the QLD opposition leader was in the studio.   I am told either tomorrow morning at 6:45 or 7:15 – but more likely Monday at either of those same times … alls well and he will send me a audio file and the interview will be posted on-line via this site.

The overnight stats from people having a peak at the FCATA webpage was much higher than expected – there were some glitches with the link from the Chronicle’s on-line link that returned ‘404’ messages.  Indications of interest are still the real measure of how the community sees this new program and I urge all those who want to be a participant in the program to indicate their interest.  Please – any other interest indications are also very welcome as this program will not be able to function in its initial stages without volunteers and their generous offers to help.

Plan to spend part of the day setting up a new independent FCATA blog site … let you all know when its done about the new address …

talk later … Ian.




FCATA – Blog 3

Good news tonight … late this afternoon I received an e-mail from Lisa Desmond, Acting CEO and she sent me a copy of the Pool’s operating Budget for 2009-10 and to date for 2010-11.  The data these budgets contain allow you to draw a very different picture to that concluded by the summary numbers appearing in the Councils Annual Budget publication.  Mayor Kruger had denied me access to these reports an I quote:

‘ … The Council operates the pools as a community service obligation to the Fraser Coast Region as are many other services that Council provides. …   … Whilst Council could process your request under RTI, [Right for Information] you may still not get the figures that you are seeking due to possible exemptions under the RTI Act due to information which may be subject to ‘tendering arrangements’ in the near future. … ‘

I appealed the matter to the State Minister for Local Government … Ms Desmond’s communication this evening has produced the budgets asked for, and I thank her for that.

The other bit of good news was that Mr Peter Smith [Director Community & Development, Fraser Coast Council], rang me late today as well.  I had left 3-4 messages for him over the last 7-10 days – and with the flood issues and concerns – I was not really expecting a return call any time soon.  I had also been a bit rough on Mr Smith leading up to the Christmas break re the ongoing battle over the concession-card discount matter.

Mr Smith informed me that he thinks that the Fraser Coast Council has applied for a Federal funding grant under the Healthier Communities Initiation due for submission by the 4th Feb 2011.  He also was quite helpful when I asked if I could see the application to get an idea of what will be required in 2013 when the FCATA plans to make its formal application.  He intends to chase all that up tomorrow and if the flow of data happens – perhaps we just might start to see some positive responses from Council in the next month or so.

And yes, there is another good piece of news – Cr Sue Brooks – someone who has gone toe-to-toe with me as they say – has also done a back-flip.  With all the good news yesterday with the cold-calls to the Carer Organisations I made, I sent a thank-you message to them all for showing their interest and giving them some more background detail about the program.

I sent a copy of that message to ‘All-Councillors’ and to a few other people who are on the mailing list as well.  Cr Brooks then saw fit late last night to liaise with the same Carer people the message was sent to with the following message:


‘ …  Speaking personally I believe Council will give whatever support it can to such a programme. Community based organisations have opportunities to apply for funding under the Council grants programme and Council can assist in other ways also. My understanding is that at this time Council does not have the capacity or priority to actually form or run such a group itself.
In relation to pool entry prices our pricing is, generally speaking, reasonably cheap compared to other public pool facilities and Council will be setting pool entry prices every year as part of the budget process. So it is possible that Council will alter pool entry pricing in the future.
I wish Ian every success in developing this programme as I do believe it would be beneficial to many residents.
Cheers, Sue
Councillor Sue Brooks
Environment portfolio
Sent from a Fraser Coast Regional Council BlackBerry Wireless Handheld … ‘


I am not too sure what Cr Brooks thought she was doing – but I certainly believe she had good intentions when she made a decision to liaise with these contacts.  In essence – her message represented a complete back-flip to her last lot of messages she sent me only 1-2 days previously.  I could make an assumption – but I won’t.  But I am thankful Cr Brooks appears to have come some way from her original positin.

Tomorrow is another day and it starts early – the ABC Wide Bay interview playback that was to be on this morning – is now on for tomorrow morning.  Hopefully that will give some more coverage and I think the Chronicle might be doing a follow up to correct a few of the Council spokesperson’s mis-truths published today.

The feedback has been all a big positive – except for what I suspect as a couple of ‘plant’ comments to the Chronicle’s story today.  With the follow-up – that should communicate the correct data.

cya  … bleyzie.

FCATA – Blog 2

To further update the data supplied by the Council spokesperson, and as published in the Fraser Coast Chronicle on the 19th Jan ’11, the following  comments were made:

” … Council said daily entrance fees were half price for pensioners, cutting the $3.70 fee to $1.85.

“The full year season pass is $293 – applicable to everyone,” a spokesperson said.

“Visiting the pool four times a week for a full year would cost $1.40 a visit using the season pass. …”

By comparison, and using all the Regional Councils between Brisbane and Mackay, the mean yearly price for a season ticket among all those Council pools is above $400.  It is more expensive in regions south of Fraser Coast, and  gets cheaper as you go north.  They all offer some discount ranging from 50%-20% for aged and disability concession card holders.  They don’t require a Doctors certificate – and if you take Gladstone as an example – all concession-card holders can swim free between  8-9 am,  Mon-Fri.

The bigger picture is to try and keep the aging and marginalised population exercising … it will save the Australian economy $100’s millions in short term reduced medical expenditure.  Fraser Coast Council is currently the most discriminate Council when it comes to recognising this statistical fact.  They should be doing everything they can to encourage this aging and disadvantaged to try and maintain their independent living lifestyle for as long as possible.  It will save the public purse $billions in the long run.

The subsidy asked for when Council was approached for the ‘concession-card’ discount was around $1000.  The Councils 2010 budget show the Hervey Bay pool had a $680,000 running cost shortfall.  Some of this is infrastructure appropriation, however, it is still $100’s thousands of dollars being spent to subsidise the ‘general public’ entry cost into the pool.

Linked below is the Council’s request for a report on the ‘budget – impact’ of altering the concession-card entry price for season tickets.  The Council produced report is also included in the summation, as is a researched response report that actually contacted every Council pool and spoke to someone and extracted the information about their ‘concession-card’ and ‘general-public’ entry costs.  The information destroyed the creditability of the Council’s own report.   As a response the Mayor arranged a hasty meeting and made a statement to ‘do something now’ to address the problem.

The Mayor had one of his staff offered me a special deal where by I would be the only one the receive the deal – he said I could pay the season ticket price on a monthly basis – yet it would still cost the same as the ‘general-public’ ticket cost.  This Council would not give up a $1000 to help the current users who purchase season tickets.

Link to Council Report on Pool Pricing, and the response report:

Pool issue 20100922

Link to Submission form to indicate you level of Interest in the Aqua Therapy Program:

bleyzie …